Final Commentary on "Race Realism" Debate with James Allsup

The days of debating on the Red Elephants YouTube channel are over.

Debate is not a matter of interest, it seems. The commitment to seeing white identity or race of any kind as the key determinant for any civil society is all wrong.

At any rate, I was so unhappy with the arguments that they had been sharing, that I had to speak out. Vincent James offered for me to debate someone on this issue. I had never heard of this James Allsup guy until the day of the debate, which took place the same day as the San Dimas City Council meeting to discuss potential steps against SB 54.

Here's the video of the debate with James Allsup (Click the link)

This write-up was very complimentary towards me.

After dinner last night, I went on YouTube to catch up on my subscription feed. I noticed that the Red Elephants were live streaming, which was unusual. Even more unusual, James Allsup and Arthur Schaper were debating each other on the topic of “race realism.” I never expected to see that, but I do know that both James and Arthur are friends with Vince from the Red Elephants. The debate was well underway by the time I tuned in, and I was immediately intrigued to hear what was happening. I then went back and watched a replay so I could catch the debate in its entirety. I’ve been a fan of the work of both of them in the past. James’s position was that differences between races matter. Black Americans will never achieve parity with white Americans because they have a lower average IQ. Arthur’s position was that religious and cultural values have much more to do with a civilization's achievements than race and IQ.

I am astonished at the degrees to which alt-right figures, or paleonconservatives, or "whatever-cons" will go to make the race the focal issue of political thought.

Pat Buchanan, one of the foreign policy nationalists with a grave distrust of Israel, wrongly predicted that the Georgia US Senate seat would go to a Democrat because the demographics are changing. He hasn't paid attention to the fact that more "minority" voters are voting conservative, voting for policies that make America Great Again. Why?

Because the stultifying imposition of race and identity politics is not working anymore. More people are recognizing that they can vote anyway they please, and they no longer have to be accused of "Voting against their race". That's the primary reason why minority voters have been seduced into voting Democrat.

One of the pillars of James’s argumentation was that white civilizations far surpassed anything achieved by black civilizations. He also cited statistics showing that white and Asian students score higher on average on SAT exams than blacks and Hispanics by a sizable margin. Arthur retorted by saying that the achievements of European civilizations had more to do with the culture and civilizing values brought about by Christianity and Judaism. 

Chad B.'s post was a massive summary of what James and I debated.

This part was the most pertinent for me:

James later fired back that there are African countries that are majority Christian, yet they haven’t been progressing much at all. They haven't even been putting up tall buildings since the end of colonialism. Arthur asked how intellect should be defined. Is intellect based on artistic talent or scientific rigor or something else? He noted that IQ tests aren’t always accurate and that being a good test taker doesn’t mean that you can run a business, create a great work of art, or write a book. James responded by saying that SAT’s and IQ tests are meant to prove an ability to solve problems rather than demonstrating memorization skills.

David Brooks affirmed my view that intellect is far more than passing a tests:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Fc4Vpikdg

Responding to James' assertion that African nations have largely floundered despite being given significant amounts of monetary aid, Arthur said that family and values matter more than aid money. The money often falls into the hands of warlords and dictators and gets squandered. He also noted how unfortunate it is that so many black children grow up in broken homes and how many blacks face generational poverty due to the governmental policies of the Democrats.

Then Chad offered his comments about these alt-right views:

When I hear some of these Alt-Right personalities continually bringing up race and a hope for a future ethnostate, I start getting turned off. I agree with some common stances on the Alt-Right, but not this one. Yes, there are obvious physical and maybe even intellectual differences between races, but there are also many other factors at play, such as culture, climate, values, and religion. All human beings have far more in common than they have differences. Outward racial appearance is only a small part of what comprises an individual. Similarly, IQ is far from being the most important predictor of success in life.

I would further add that these differences are the crucial distinctions.

The intelligence of people could easily be offset by laziness, lack of focus, or lack of common sense. People with lower IQ’s might have a good work ethic, a strong ability to focus, and abundant common sense. I bet that we could all think of someone who has plenty of book smarts, but they can barely figure out how to program a TV remote or row a canoe. 

Or even change a tire. There's street smarts as well as books smarts. Intellectuals have offered a number of predictions, and they have often been wrong. They are out of touch with the varieties and vagueries of real life. Many intellectuals are in bondage to this false notion that just because they are well-read, and surrounded by other academics who are well-read, that they are smarter than everyone else.

Yet the sailors on Christopher Columbus' ships knew more about the New World than the wild and crazy fantasies of academics in elite universities. Some of them were writing about men with heads in their chests, for example, and still peddling other Aristotlean myths about natural laws and sciences.

Similarly, we could probably think of people who only have a high school diploma, yet they successfully manage a store or do well in sales. Some people with high IQ's cannot perform well under pressure. Some people with low IQ's are skilled at a particular trade. This irony is exemplified on reality TV shows like Undercover Boss. On this show, a CEO or president of a large corporation goes undercover and works a menial job at their business. Often times, despite their multi-million dollar salaries and top positions, they struggle with assembling tacos or successfully dealing with customers.

In a sense, then, IQ doesn't really amount to much of anything. It's almost meaningless, then.

Regarding an ethnostate, if the United States was hypothetically fractured into smaller ethnic countries, people would still face the same issues that afflict all human beings: food, water, sewage, housing, an electrical grid, trade, law, crime, taxes, education, poverty, transportation, and finance. Plus, you would still have a wide spectrum of political ideologies. I just don't see an ethnostate as the panacea to life's problems. White people definitely don’t all think the same way, and I’m far from certain that there would be a clear majority way of thinking.

Human nature and human struggles have an inescapable, universal aspect about them. That does not mean, however, that nations and citizens should strive at all costs to erase borders and remove nations. Nations are the spice of life, and God's plan for mankind.

I’ve known far too many dumb white people, including ones with college degrees, to ever believe in inherent white supremacy. I’ve also known far too many smart Africans, Asians, and Latinos. Of course, this anecdotal evidence would be dismissed, but even when looking at average IQ’s across races you would still have to evaluate people at the individual level. 

One of the chief arguments from Allsup and others who push this race realism argument is that speaking about individual contacts is ultimately "anecdotal". Those statements do not make the point any less true. Widespread judgments about people based on their skin color, the shape of their eyes and heads, or other superficial genetic features does not add up under scrutiny.

When James brought up specific inventions of white people, they’re creations of individuals – not a collective. Claiming that on average certain races have more inventors than others doesn't seem to matter across an entire population. As Arthur started naming black inventors, James chuckled. At some point, judging which inventions matter and which ones don't would start getting subjective. Arthur said that differences between ethnic and racial groups have become more nebulous, but James stridently disagreed.

The very concept of race is falling apart with further research and discovery into human genomes and genetic findings. What is race, exactly? Certainly it matters, from a political perspective, but as the political and cultural differences become greater and wider among people with fundamentally the same skin color, it becomes clear that every person has too much diversity within himself to be lumped into any one group or race.

Arthur really nailed James when he asked him, “Do you think black people are stupid because they're black?” He never answered that question with a direct yes or no. Arthur noted that the founders of our country wrote that “all men are created equal.” James then quoted Thomas Jefferson who pondered future racial strife between blacks and whites in America. Arthur said that people often change their views as they receive more information.

Indeed, they have. At one time, Abraham Lincoln agreed with then Speaker of the House Henry Clay's repatration program, which would have freed all the black slaves then sent them back to Africa.

By the time the country was founded, however, these slaves were not African in any way. They have dark skin, and all of them were of African descent in some way, but they were Americans! Eventually, Abraham Lincoln formed a different set of views on the matter. Part of what makes America Great--and what we need to Keep America Great--is to hold onto the promise of the Founders and the natural laws on which this country is founded: that all men are equal, that anyone can come from another country and assimilate into the wonders and culture of the United States.

E Pluribus Unum is our nation's motto, after all.

By the way, James never answered my question: "Do you think that black people are stupid, and that they are stupid because they are black?"

Arthur then got to the crux of the matter. If James is an agnostic who doesn’t know whether or not God exists, there’s an irreconcilable difference in their worldviews. For a believer in the God of Christianity and Judaism, every person has been created in the image and likeness of God, meaning everyone has an intellect and a will. Each human being has intrinsic value. For the atheist or agnostic, human beings evolved from lesser creatures and are ultimately comprised of stardust and carbon that somehow came to life. It’s much easier to put down entire races of people if we’re all just some cosmic accident. They truly believe in the survival of the strongest and smartest.

This part of the debate was fundamental to me. Worldviews do matter, and the logical or illogical bases of a man's understanding will affect for better or for worse their appraisal of his fellow man, whatever his skin color may be.

Here's the final downfall of the debate for James:

By the end of the debate, I lost some respect for James Allsup. His good debate points were peppered with childish name calling that made him appear egotistical and smug.  Here’s a list of some of his insults:

• "Hold on, old man. I know it’s probably past your nap time."
• "Boomer"---I was born in 1980, so this Boomer talk simply gets funnier every time I hear it!
• "Stop crying. Stop whining, old man.” 
• "I'm trying to have a debate, and you're losing your mind sitting in your car."
• "How many lines of coke today, Arthur?" The only Coke I take in -- I drink.
• "You really can't be this f**king stupid." He was really losing at this point.
• "Vince, I'm disappointed in you guys. I didn't know that you and David just went out and found like homeless people and gave them a bunch of crack and like told them go and debate James Allsup. Jesus Christ."

After watching the debate in its entirety and digesting its content, I have to ultimately side with Arthur. 

At least one debate that went my way ... I guess.

I have no problem with people being proud of the accomplishments of their race or ethnic group. I grew up in a region that was nearly all white, but there was always a strong sense of ethnic identity tied to religion, food, language, and history. 

Culture, not color. Heritage, not hate.

I don't even have a problem with people wanting to live around people of their own race or wanting to marry within their race. When it comes to demonizing entire races of people by saying that their average IQ is too low to function in society, I have a problem with that. I also see more important ideals to strive for in life than racial pride and purity. Feel free to watch the debate here and to come to your own conclusion.

Final Reflection

All the data in the world to push one point of view does not amount to much when it's all based on fundamentally flawed premises. The definitions of race and the proper ways to define and measure intelligence as so varied and mired in controversy and challenges, that the very debate falls apart.

One part that I hammered at length on James Allsup was this simple question:

"Define an average African." I asked that question three times, but was smeared as "sperging out". He refused to answer that question, which goes back to my chief challenge with the whole argument. What is race? It's getting harder to define, and therefore to peg IQ with race is an every more slippery argument altogether.

Thanks for watching and sharing your views, Chad B!

A Discussion on Diversity and Race as a Factor in Culture

The Red Elephants leader and friends helped me out big time in Berkeley last year:

They were indeed a Godsend, no question about it.

That doesn't mean that I agree with all their views or ideas. I will never shut down people's freedom of speech, and I submit that The Red Elephants have done an incredible job as free speech activists and advocates to fight for our culture.

Now then, I want to address tweets like this one issued out of their

Why are Jews always making anti-white movies? pic.twitter.com/Qw4gpb5BUC

— The Red Elephants 🐘 (@RealRedElephant) March 15, 2018

Why blame Jewish people with such a wide brush?

For the record, I had an extended and welcome conversation with Vincent of the Red Elephants on this issue. He also told me that he has many Jewish friends--who in turn have shared a sense of alarm at the number of Jewish people in Media and Academic leadership positions pushing left-wing views.

I recognize that many people in Hollywood leadership are of Jewish descent, too. But I am not convinced that Jewish elites are running--or ruining--the United States of America.

Abject liberalism certainly is, the insane securalism which is displacing, God, Country, and the Judeo-Christian ethic should concern us greatly, especially in the state of California.

That does not mean, however, that there is some kind of Jewish conspiracy, a la The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, running the entertainment industry, or worse yet that some evil Jewish cabal is trying to destroy the United States of America.

The arguments about race, political views, and culture is too complex with too many spurious correlations abounding. Some arguments I have heard on this issue state that a set of bell curves have outlined that race and IQ correlate.

I find that argument still remains quite specious and spurious. The fact is that government programs targeted black communities with welfarism and government subsidy. All of this took place post-World War II and the Civil Rights Movement, as Lyndon Baines Johnson and his racist co-conspirators looked for any means available to shore up their vote as they realized that the American South was trending Republican--and this trend was taking place since the early 1920's.

It's correlation that stands out when we see a large black population in American prisons. This is not about the genetic determinants inside of individuals. In fact, the genetic differences between a Liberian and a Spaniard are far, far more different than the genetic determinant differences between the Negriod and the Caucasoid races. What's more compelling and thus adding an element of confusion to this whole mess: people from India are also considered Caucasoid! The skin color fCtor is practically negligible for distinguishing individuals!

The fact is that culture, not race, determines whether individuals survive, thrive, fail, or die. Practices, beliefs, views, strategies for life, attitudes and fundamental beliefs make all the difference. Thomas Sowell wrote, for example, about the economic miracle of black freedman in the United States after the Civil War. The literacy rate within this population was effectively zero right after the conflict, since Southern States had criminalized teaching black slaves to read. Within a generation, however, the black literacy rate was 50%! Intellect has nothing to do with race, but everything to do with culture, and more importantly with the choices that individuals makes.

Let's stop looking at skin color or race as a major determining factor for anything. Rather, let's hold onto the principles professed by the Framers in the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Father and Son Jumped By Antifa In Berkeley (Video)

This video was an incredible development following the Berkeley Free Speech rally, which turned into an Antifa riot.

I was chased down the street and then I ran into a gas station to protect myself.

But this father and son were harrassed even worse than anything than had happened to me.

The Red Elephants ran across them in a local restaurant and shared their incredible story.

Check it out.

Antonio Foreman Stabbed -- UPDATE: He's in Stable* Condition (Donations Requested )

Antonio Foreman.

This man takes on the Left like a BOSS!

He is not afraid to go after Antifa. He is not afraid to take on illegal aliens and their hostile enablers.

This man is current at the UCLA Ronald Reagan Hospital, stabbed nine times stabbed.

Unbelievable.

Antonio "Tony" Foreman is one of my best friends, he's a fellow Trump supporter & an Oathkeeper. Stabbed 9 times & needs prayer. Thank you. pic.twitter.com/uDGojfTmgQ

— Baked Alaska™ (@bakedalaska) June 20, 2017

What is going on?

The anti-Trump Left has gone for all-out war.

They lose elections. They are losing the culture wars.

They have lost the media and the Big Corporations.

Academia is slipping out of their hands as more young people decide to brave life's challenges head-on rather than run away from reality for four more years at an over-priced university.

Of course the Left is resorting to violence.

One Berniecrat shot a Congressman, and he had a list to target more of them.

We the People Rising and LA County for Trump are seeing our fair share of hate turning into "hurt" here in Southern California.

And now this?!

Here's a report from The Red Elephants.

Here's a report from the Gateway Pundit.

Here's more information that I received from Based in LA Jeffrey while they were waiting by his side at the hospital.

Antonio Foreman has taken on the worst of the worst, and he keeps on trucking.

This time, he is facing the challenge of a lifetime: his very life.

So, here are the details as available:

1. He was stabbed on Saturday June 17, 2017, after the free speech rally - he went to the bar, Knights' Head, in Santa Monica)

He want to the parking structure nearby to drive home.

It was night time in Santa Monica, around 11pm,

There were two Armenians driving recklessly in the parking structure

They hit his car.

Antonio was by himself at the time.

3. Two Armenians were in the vehicle -- they are American citizens.

They saw  "Don't Tread on Me" stickers on the back of the car. Just because he is a freedom-loving American Patriot, they said "We're going to shank you!"

They called him "white boy" and "cracker", which confirms that this attack was a hate crime against a white male and Trump supporter.

He  was stabbed nine times, including:

1 in the face

1 in the neck

4 on the side

Fortunately, the attackers did not damage any vital organs.

However, Foreman has already undergone two surgeries, and likely faces going under for another. (This is all too much like what Congressman Scalise went through. Too much).

Foreman cannot provide too many details for what happened, since shortly after the onslaught came. he blacked out, then woke up in the hospital.

Police have footage from the parking structure from the cameras. The two Armenian thugs have been arrested, currently held on $1 million bail.

But what about Anthony?

He is in stable condition. They say he is trending toward good, but he is in a great deal of pain!

Jeffrey from Based in La put it like this: :Condition: Stable, good, (with an asterisk) in pain"

He has been in the hospital for two days.

He contacted Baked Alaska first, who got in touch with him right away!

How can people help him out?

WeSearcher--there you can donate to him.

This site is better, because GoFundMe has been shutting down conservative efforts to crowdfund.

Please keep Antonio Foreman in your prayers, and donate to his health fund!!!

We need this man. He is good, a strong fighter for the cause, not afraid to stand up to anyone and anything!

Trump Supporters Chase Congressman Out Of His Illegal Alien Town Hall

Congressman Lou Correa (D-Santa Ana) felt compelled and justified to host an illegal alien town hall.

Unbelieveable.

Sources and followers are now telling me Correa and his fellow illegal alien pandering Congressmen should be arrested on the spot for hosting these outrageous, illegal gatherings.

Think it through, people. How would you react of a Congressman was teaching professional thieves how to get away with burglary and avoid capture?

That's what these Congressmen--Grace Napolitano, Lou Correa, Nanette Barragan, and others--are doing!

Enough is enough.

We the People Rising, Los Angeles County for Trump, all of us and our friends who could come arrived on scene at the Delhi Center to record and report on Lou Correa's abortive town hall. The paperwork lining the tables as we checked it had taxpayered resources telling illegal aliens and their enablers how to get counseling, how to apply for citizenship (now? finally?!).

Almost all of the materials were written in Spanish! Talk about racist and prejudicial--on two levels! First, the documentation does not permit law-abiding, English-speaking citizens to know what the federal government and the illegal alien Congressman is pushing. Second, such a limited about of translation sends the clear signal that only Spanish-speaking nationals are coming into the country illegally.

Terrible precedented, and We the People are paying for it!

Cyrus Hojjaty showed up a little bit later, but before the meeting was set to begin. He called out the Congressman and his staff for pushing welfare to illegal aliens.

I had to suffer with adults in the room who resorted to telling me to shut up. Some of them called me and fellow Trump supporters names. Such childish behavior. One of the biggest children in the room was Naui Huitzilopochtli. He was ready for any opportunity to shame and harrass anyone he could find.

I had so much fun with him! I brought a coconut for Naui to realize what is a coconut--and it's not Raymond O'Hara. Who has a hard brown head with bits of fuzz all over? NAUI! Of course, he did not find that every funny. When I wanted to hand him a pacifier, he seized it out of my hands, then threw it back in my bag. I guess he just wants to cry!

For the next fifteen minutes, while the rest of the group was gathering in the front rows, I connected briefly with Lupe Morfin. SHE CAME! Lupe is awesome! She has been fighting illegal immigration for years. She was one of the Minutemen in 2006. And she knows Naui all too well! "Naui would come after and my grandchildren. He made them cry!

Shameful! These amnesty panderers are cruel and unusal. They have neither respect nor regard for anyone. When I started slamming Naui's legacy of harrassing children and their guardians, he rushed over right away to try and correct the record. He is getting scared and angry!

Victory for Trump Supporters!

The other "Stolen Land" crew showed up with their little signs.I started putting the uestion back to them. "Why are you trying to steal other people's land?" I reminded another wannabe Native American that her ancestors had enslaved other people, even after the Civil War ended in 1865. She wasn't too happy to hear about that. Someone else should remind these Mexica, La Raza nativists, and other anti-American communists that all peoples have enslaved others. It was the Western World, particularly in the United States, which took diligent steps to end slavery. The conscientious objections of godly men enabled them to end the slave trade all over the world.

At one point, Jessica Runfola was attacked by a hateful Chicana who believes that the United States is "stolen land." A court hearing will take place later in July. We expect that Jessica will be released as the charges will be dismissed.

The altercations between Correa and Trump supporters grew more heated after that. Clearly, the patriots in the room were not going to sit back and arbitrarily tolerate the treasonous disregard of our nation's Constitution and immigration laws.

Correa closed down the meeting, but we refused to let him get away with his arbitrary pandering for illegal aliens. The Santa Ana police began escorting everyone out of the room. Then a fight broke out in the parking lot. An Antifa thug was arrested. The police told everyone to leave the area.

Naui was completely triggered, along with the rest of the "Stolen Land" bigots.

All of us were able to escape without fear.

And we had so much to celebrate!!!

The Red Elephants Expose Illegal Alien Luis "White People Have Only Five Years Left" Nolasco

Luis Nolasco has become a social media sensation--again!

"Go Away, White People! Die Already!"

First, the Daily Caller exposed his anti-white hatred in the January 9, 2017 Rialto City Council meeting.

Here are the comments from the Daily Caller:

ACLU Official Mocks Elderly White People, Tells Them They Have ‘Five Years Left’

“It’s kind of mean for me to say it but these people have probably like five years left,” Nolasco said while gesturing to the white attendees at the meeting. A video of the meeting shows that several of them were elderly.

The ACLU official said that Latinos and blacks are “the future,” and that “we don’t want to see an America that is hateful.”

The ACLU of Southern California told The Daily Caller Tuesday that Nolasco’s comments were not consistent with the ACLU’s stated policy but they support his right to freely express his opinion.

“Everyone in America has a Constitutional right to free speech, and the employees of the ACLU of Southern California are no exception. However, we wish to make clear that Luis Nolasco was not speaking on behalf of the ACLU at the Rialto City Council meeting and his statements are not consistent with our stated policy. Nevertheless, we support his right to freely express his personal opinion to his elected representatives,” the civil liberties group said.

The ACLU actually had to play defense.

But the fight is not over. Nolasco, an illegal alien, is still representing the ACLU.

Then in the last week, the Red Elephants picked up the story and shared Nolasco's belief that white people had only five years left:

An illegal alien, Luis Nolasco, spoke to the city of Rialto, CA during a city council meeting this week.  He told the panel and the crowd that the white race only has about 5 years left.  This is more proof of the blatant attack on the white race and it is accepted in current society because of the indoctrination and forced white guilt within our school systems today.  I’m sorry but I do not apologize for being a part of western society, which created the modern world, including everything we use today.

It's time to hold left-wing agitators, especially these arrogant, brazen illegal aliens, accountable for their hateful rhetoric. What would happen to white residents of Rialto looking at black or Hispanic residents and telling them "You only have five years left"?

There would be pandemonium in the press. There would be protests and riots in the streets. The outrage industry would ruoll out in full force.

It's time toake people to task for this rhetoric.

And asfor Nolasco - he should he be deported -- immediately!