I have been conversing with a Christian friend of mine, one who does not support Israel, who believes that the current state should not exist. He also adheres to "replacement theology," which suggests that God has abandoned the Jews and now only works with Christians.
Here was the first question that I posed to him:
The Scofield Bible is getting some massive excoriation at this time [on social media].
I have never read that version, since I am not interested in any version of the Bible which has someone else's comments or ideas embedded into it.
Your reasons for being vocally opposed to the Scofield, and what are the errors which it teaches? -- Please share when you have time.
Here are the responses that I received:
It altered who all Christians believed - for nearly 2,000 years - that NT Israel was. His Bible was bankrolled by the biggest Zionists in America....to swing millions of Christians into their political camp. Palestinian Christians and non-violent Muslims have paid a huge price. World peace has been altered. And due to this poor theology we treat Israel different then all other nations, in desperate need of the Gospel of the Messiah. Send me your personal email address again Arthur. I will send you a two-page short Bible study and a theological reading list that has impacted a lot of other dispensationalists.
Here is the second message I received:
I fear your hermeneutical view of Scripture starts with your support of a political entity lost, apart from Jesus Christ. The Zionist Jews of Israel are not being threatened from others. Their hatred of the Triune God makes themselves their greatest enemy. They have the highest tax-payer funded abortion rate in the world. Tel Aviv is the homosexual capital of the world. (Ask the Jewish psychologist who used to practice in San Francisco until they ran him out….and who called to thank me for burning those transgender library books.) And they just vaccinated 61% of their population with the deadly mNRA full of spike proteins. And they are brutally cruel to their neighbors, whom the Zionists in charge see as goyim or cattle. God is dealing with Israel for rejecting the Messiah. May we one day see them return to Christ, via Romans 11. But not through more nuclear bombs and American aid.
See my attached piece I use to ‘lit-drop’ dispensational churches in the region and my reading list. Those who adhere to the erroneous ‘end times’ doctrine have done such harm to take Christians off the battle field. Such harm!
And see the Meme, I produced. The best Reformed Covenantal (we never use the word ‘Replacement’….that was made up by dispensationalists) theologians came from former pro-Israel dispensational backgrounds. They stopped reading the Scofield margin notes and started reading the Bible. Some of the best people sounding the warning against Zionists are Karaite Jewish Rabbis. I appreciate them and think they could be good neighbors.
BTW, does ‘Schaper’ have any Jewish roots to it?
Here is my first response, and extensive set of remarks to contrast with what he had shared with me:
You've made a number of great responses to me regarding this issue.
I want to make it very clear that I recognize that there is no salvation apart from Jesus Christ. I do not suggest that people can be saved apart from believing in his perfect sacrifice of the cross. Amen!
The notion however that God has cut off Jews from his loving power is just not true. He wants them to believe, and he continues to reach out to them just as he reaches out to us. He does have a special covenant with them, as he established not just in Genesis chapter 12, but has been affirmed in other passages as well throughout the old and new testaments.
Consider these passages:
"19And the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah, saying, 20Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season; 21Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers. 22As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me." (Jeremiah 33:19-22)
"Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God." Hosea 1:10
I did not accept this replacement theology. The fact is that we are blessed with believing Abraham, every person who believes in Jesus Christ. This is available to everyone, including the Jewish people. God has not cut off his covenant with them. However, because they insist on staying under the old covenant, they endure the old covenant curses. That is why, for example, they were dispersed throughout the world in AD 70.
Consider these passages, too:
"Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus."( John 12:11)
During Jesus earthly ministry, many Jews ended up believing in him! If he had cut them off, they would have never believed in him.
Ask for today, or in our current times, Many Jews don't even believe in God, right now, because of a great blindness due to seeing Moses and not Jesus:
"13And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away." (2 Corinthians 3, versus 13 through 16)
Regarding the rebirth of Israel as a nation:
"Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children." (Isaiah 66:8)
"But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land." (Jeremiah 23:8)
"Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither." (Jeremiah 31:8)
I wish to affirm that everything that I've shared with you is from The Bible, specifically the King James version. I have not drawn any inspiration or insight from the so-called Scofield bible. In fact I've never even read that version. I agree that nobody should settle for a version of The Bible that is replete with passages, messages and notes from someone else. The Holy Spirit reveals Jesus to us in the scriptures. We don't need to keep running to Other people to do that for us.
My starting point is not a nation state. My starting point is Jesus Christ! My starting point is that Jesus will fufill the old covenant, and enacted a new covenant.
My last name is not a Jewish last name. I find it interesting that you're bringing up ethnic backgrounds. That's very strange. Truth has nothing to do with one's ethnic status or ancestry.
My second response:
Believe me, I am well aware of the hostility that rabbis and secular Jews have towards Christianity. That hostility is quite rampant among Muslims and other secular groups as well, so it doesn't make a lot of sense just to target Jews regarding this issue.
As we speak, especially in spite of covid 19, an incredible Christian messianic Jewish ministry has been sharing the gospel with Jews throughout Israel, and more of them are believing in Jesus!
I then followed up with this question:
Another question, P---:
Do you believe that christians today are still bound to try to keep the 10 commandments?
Here were the final responses that I wrote to him: